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Post by pottergirl on Jun 23, 2002 11:28:17 GMT -5
I've seen O. Well, I've never read Othello, but from what I know of the plot line, it was pretty acurate. It used modern language, though, which I could have done without. Well, obviously it wasn't a happy movie, but I thought it was very well done. See, we studied Romeo and Juliet in 9th grade, and my teacher (who I also had for Senior English, she's really great) thinks Leonardo DiCaprio can't act. I think that's the main reason she didn't like the Luhrmann. Well, that and the fact that she had been teaching for quite a while and loved the Zepherelli, which she had always shone. My mother, who is also an English teacher, also loves the Zepherelli. I think she just doesn't like Luhrmann in general, though, because she didn't like Moulin Rouge either. I guess she just prefers Zepherelli's interpretation. I don't know.
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Post by Fox Birch on Jun 24, 2002 3:34:44 GMT -5
hmm.. i don't think i've seen very many movie versions of shakespeare's plays... i say both versions of henry V ((is that right? lol can't think right now...)) and i've seen the shakespeare in central park or something or other version of a midsummer night's dream... but that's it... i guess i like reading them better...
lol and i agree with your teacher: leo really can't act...
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Post by Red <Avantgarden Gnome> on Jun 25, 2002 2:30:48 GMT -5
I never saw O either. Kept thinking about the Circe de Sole show of the same name. Now that was cool. I love Claire Danes in R&J. I'd always hated that play because she was always just so... so... starcrossed. Like, constantly. But then we have an intelligent, confused, emotionally starved Juliet who is not thirteen ("-Of a pretty age." ) and even has a little spunk to her. *points* YES! The Shrew doesn't get anywhere near tamed! I hate when people don't get when writting is and is not trying to be sarcastic (a trouble we often have online). See I always hated the musical Kiss me, Kate for that very reason: Their shrew is tamed both onstage and off. hehe. You said Calvinball. My sisters and I tried to play that once or twice. It rapidly degenerated into a wrestling match. My favourite Henry V is Braunagh's version. He's a very young Braunagh too. I love that Emma Thompson actually speaks french in it. I love Emma Thompson. *sigh*
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Post by HPFan_is_back on Jun 25, 2002 14:02:59 GMT -5
I got my book list for next year today. And I wanted it to have some Shakespeare on it, but it doesn't. It has the time machine tough... I read it in 4th grade, and we're reading it now. Really. Ah, me getting off topic again
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Post by En on Jul 7, 2002 15:54:26 GMT -5
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Post by sparklingdiamond on Aug 21, 2002 22:07:57 GMT -5
I love Shakespeare. I've been in Romeo and Juliet play before. I didn't play Juliet(grrrr) I was an understudy though. I was an extra in it All I did was stand there almost through the whole play. That's worse than when my sister had only 1 word when she was in the Hobbit. At least she had a word There was this rumor going around that the girl who did get the part was only because her parents PAID the drama teacher Cause her dad owns a car dealership. Anyway....I'm gonna stop dragging on, continue ;D
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Post by aurora on Aug 31, 2002 21:55:17 GMT -5
I only wanted to mention a few things but now I have multiple things to state.
1 - As you were talking about the movie adaptations of the plays, I have to suggest "A Midsummer Night's Dream" It was just done so well and none of the lines were altered ((and only a few lines were left out... how do I know this? I've got half of that one memorized :) Like the Leo R&J, it's not set in the original time period, but it still came out very well
2 - En, I registered at that site I got kinda giddy when I saw it, lol, I'm rather upset though however I'm only at the postion of a "money lender"... that'll change... how did you find that?
3 - Our English play this year is "The Taming of the Shrew" I got all giddy ((again)) as it's one of my favourites... I'm so determined to play Katherina... as long as my group preforms the beginning of the play when she's still a shrew
4 - To Anyone Who's Read Trolious & Cressida - please offer me some comfort and tells me that it gets better after the 3rd act I can honestly say that this is the first Shakespeare play I've ever not liked... and I'm on my 16th now! Prolly my personal taste though since this is only the 3rd or 4th Tragedy I've read. Nevertheless...
5 - More giddyness as I've found this beautiful little collection of blue linen-bound ((I haven't the proper term for it)) "The Yale Shakespeare", first editions from 1927 in handy-little tote-able size ;D ((very shortened version here of what I'd like to say)) Nearly perfect condition and only slightly faded on the spine, but the gold writing of the Title is still clear ;D *giddy* I could only buy 9 of them ((and this was in PEI, go fig)) and the book-store owner used to have the FULL SET! But he started selling them off one by one! *anger*
6 - and finally what I originally meant to post... I must reccomend "The Invention of the Human" by Harold Bloom. It was reccommended to me by a guy I met in Chapters who took a course on Shakespeare in University. Truth be told, I've only read 30 of the 750 pages but I only bought it yesterday! But just by the way he writes thus far and that it's becoming one of that books where I compulsively take quotes from, I know that I'm going to love the rest. It's basically an analysis of all of the plays backing onto his thesis.
We are lived by drives we cannot command, and we are read by works we cannot resist. We need to exert ourselves and read Shakespeare as strenously as we can while knowing that his plays will read us more energetically still.
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Post by En on Sept 1, 2002 13:20:18 GMT -5
Woohaa! I hadn't been going to the bard site much but if you're there now, I'll go back ;D I found it by accident because the admin happened to log in to the Proboards support site the same day I did a while back, with the username "shaxper," and I asked him what his site was about and he gave me the link. Happy accident.
Do you mean the Midsummer with Cassandra what's-her-lack-of-butt, Ally McBeal I mean, as Helena? I didn't like her, but I loved Bottom, and the bicycles It was pretty in a Kenneth Branagh way, and I liked Puck a LOT. But... I dunno, I guess the version I saw and liked best was the one set in modern times, where my buddy James played Puck... in black leather and with a decidedly street punk attitude. It was great. You should have heard him deliver the "I go, I go" line with 112% sass while sauntering in slow motion with that my-pants-are-size-BIG walk.
Ah man! I'd love to play Katharina too -- or actually I want to play Petruchio, because I think it would be a great challenge to pull off the, you know, sneaky playfulness thing. To smirk all the way through Kate's last monologue such that the audience understands that Petruchio doesn't actually want her to be submissive, and she won't be. They're just playing the game.
*gets The Invention of the Human off the shelf* I haven't read this much; skimmed through it a bit in college but didn't read the whole thing. *puts it by the bed* I've got to finish rereading some Faulkner so I can tell Brit about it, but this will be next. Speaking of... I want coffee, I'm going to go read now. Be back later
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Post by aurora on Sept 2, 2002 22:19:02 GMT -5
Calista Flockhart? Yeah, I don't like her so much as well but I think that's more or less because she reminds be exactally of a friend of mine who annoys me half to death. I liked that version anyways though.
*shakes head* The 80's were a serious mistake... I'm assuming that that's when you saw the other version of Midsummer?
*rented O tonite and is planning on watching it tomorrow afternoon*
*EDIT*
*watched O, didn't really like it*
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Post by Leia Skye on Sept 3, 2002 21:52:02 GMT -5
Ugh, Shakespeare movies never do justice to live theatre. BUT Titus Andronicus with Anthony Hopkins is a happy exception. That is a very well done movie. Of course, it would have to be the most gory play perhaps ever written, and of course it would also have to be the one play they're not sure Old Willy actually even wrote. But check it our if you haven't already, my friends. I believe it came out in 1999, or 2000....maybe even 2001! I am so clueless! But rent it! ;D Ah. Don't eat before, during, or after though!
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Post by kaoru on Sept 4, 2002 4:40:14 GMT -5
OK, so I like the movies. Basically because there are very few Shakespearian (gack) books I've read. But of course I can never, ever, like Romeo+Juliet with annoying DiCaprio and gorgeous Danes. That movie sucked big time. So here's a list of movies made out of Shakes plays, that yeah, I liked:
Hamlet- Mel Gibson Midsummer Nights Dream- yes, the one with Calista. I really liked that movie, specially the part of the play, right in the end. Much Ado About Nothing- I guess that's the right title. The reasons?! Kenneth Branagh and Denzel Washington, it has to be a good movie. And it is. Richard III- w o w
and that's far about it. I once saw King Lear in the theater and I was like Basically because the play was amazing, but also because the man who played King Lear is the best Portuguese actor ever, Ruy de Carvalho (he's like nearly 80), so it gave a lot more *energy* to the thing. And Diogo Infante, who has the prettiest voice ever (he makes the PT Comunications commercials, like you knew that) was in it too. It was SUCH an amazing play. I think the way the father recognizes the daughter is really cool. Making the food without salt and all. Sweet.
Leia, I've tried to see Titus once. I had to leave the living room. It was the grossest and yukky thing ever. The movie was excellent, and I loveAnthony Hopkins, but it was so gross, I couldn't stand it.
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Post by aurora on Sept 4, 2002 19:40:09 GMT -5
Ugh. *makes mental note to not rent Titus Andronicus*
Aiight, after renting O my mother is trying to rent more Shakespeare DVD's ((why rent a movie when we can see them in the theater in Stratford?)) so I tagged along when we rented them. Normally, I don't like getting the video versions because they kinda suck usually and I'm pretty sure the ones I got saddeled with today will too.
I relunctantly rented Love's Labour's Lost. Why will this one suck you ask? Becuase it's a musical ((how? how could they do this to a shakespeare play?))
I also rented Hamlet with Ethan Hawke. I don't know how good this one will be but I kinda didn't want to get it because I haven't read it yet. It's set in modern times but apparently they'll be using the Shakespearean lines ((I really didn't know how to phrase that :) So there's a bonus
Anyways, I'll warn you if they suck. Lol,
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Post by Leia Skye on Sept 4, 2002 21:06:47 GMT -5
Oh!!! I forgot about that Much Ado with Kenneth and Emma and Denzel and all of them....Yeah, that also is very excellent. Thanks for reminding me! Sheesh, I have that on DVD!
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Post by kaoru on Sept 4, 2002 21:12:32 GMT -5
Rory, I guess I saw that musical too. Not sure. Is it with Kenneth Branagh as well?! And Matthew Lillard?!
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Post by aurora on Sept 7, 2002 9:11:15 GMT -5
Um yeah... that's the one Jude... you didn't like it did you? I couldn't watch it for more than half an hour. Lol, they were all so perky and Alicia Silverstone isn't really meant for that sort of acting or singing.
Anyways, all my classes suck this year but in my english class there's 13 people but only 3 other girls. So I don't think I'll have a problem getting the part I want in the play
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