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Post by Ritsu on May 16, 2005 10:37:41 GMT -5
3 days left!
Although I prefer Eps. IV, V and VI, I have to say I'm really excited about this one. Big questions are going to be answered and, of course, I'm curious about Anakin's progression... or regression, or whatever you call it.
So this is where you can post your expecactives and reviews about it. Expect something from me soon, I got tickets for Thursday *jumps around like a kid*
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Post by moira on May 16, 2005 19:41:39 GMT -5
*grins* Yeah, I've got tickets for Friday morning. I got off work for the whole day and everything. My oldest brother has become a big star wars buff over the past couple of years, especially with this last movie, because the roommates he lives with find out all sort of information on the movie and stuff. So needless to say, because of my brother I'm more aware of what's going to happen, and I've seen a bunch of trailors. There's this one I saw today for the first time, and it's actually my favourite one. The music in it's really good, and I just love the scenes they showed.
I'm with you, Mina, I'm a fan of the early star wars movies. I got excited about the "first" two, but the excitement died after I saw the movie and felt disappointed. The third movie from what critics have been saying is the movie everyone's been waiting to watch ever since Lucas started things back up again.
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Post by Calantha on May 18, 2005 7:30:37 GMT -5
Ahhh! It's a good movie, I watched Episode III last night because I'm too cool like that...um, no, acutally I work at the theatre and we did a pre-screening for it for the workers.
I wasn't disappointed at all, I mean, I'm not a big Star Wars fan, but I really enjoyed the film...and although...I don't know how I feel about the change in the media style from Episode III to Episdoe IV, it was really good and it can't help that.
I'm not that big of a Star Wars fan, but I say...go see it...even if you aren't a fanatic.
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Post by KoNeko on May 19, 2005 2:06:36 GMT -5
Haha, yesterday in the news they estimated that so many people were going to not go to work because they were going to see Ep III that it would cost about $300 million in lost profits from people skipping work... 
I'm seeing it on Saturday - there's going to be a massive line at the cinema so hopefully I'll get tickets (if not, I'll just go to another cinema...!) But seriously, if they keep Jar Jar in it I will personally jump up and kill George Lucas. 
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Post by d on May 22, 2005 23:59:58 GMT -5
1 word...
Outstanding!!!
The best Star Wars film since 1980!!!
Also one of the most emotionally intense movies I have ever seen...I never thought Star Wars (asHUGE a fan as I have always been) could ever hammer my heart like this movie did...amazing!
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Post by moira on May 23, 2005 2:30:16 GMT -5
Yeah my brother said that he teared up a few times (which is rare for my brother to do during a movie unless it really affects him), and although I agree that there are parts that definitely made me sad and made me feel for the characters, I didn't cry (which is weird, because I can cry quite easily in movies).
All in all, it was a good movie. I had watched the cartoons that held all the stuff that happened between the second and third films, and...
*WARNING: not a major spoiler, but I am mentioning about a specific character*
In the cartoons the villain General grevous (sp?) was a really awesome character. I was excited to see him live in the movie, but was disappointed that he had one (albeit very cool) fight scene and then that was it, he got killed off. And I have no idea why, as a cyborg, he was coughing, but oh well. That's the only complaint I have. Well, okay, there's one more, but I won't say it, even though it doesn't give anything away.
On a positive note though, I would definitely go see it again. I liked the humor a lot more in this movie. You saw Obi-Wan actually loosen up just a tad and smile a bit and joke, so I liked that.
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Post by KoNeko on May 23, 2005 5:19:10 GMT -5
I thought General Grevous had some humanoid in him, because of his eyes and the coughing. Yeah, the coughing really confused me.
But yeah! I was pleasantly surprised - I really liked it! Still, not as much as the originals but it did a lot for redeeming the crap that was Eps I and II. I really liked how Anakin and Obi-Wan kind of had developed and interacted with each other.
SPOILER: My favourite bit? The light saber battles with Yoda and *cough* Sith Lord, and the parallel battle with Anakin and Obi-Wan (come on, you all saw that coming!). I loved it! For some reason I didn't like the battle with Yoda and Count Dooku in Episode II, but the battle in Episode III was really quite good. I think it was the setting and how it was done, with more force moves and stuff. I could really go see that one again.
C3PO! HAHA! He's a crackup.
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Post by d on May 23, 2005 8:13:38 GMT -5
Grievous' coughing was part of something Lucas did well in the original trilogy but not as well in I and II, which is to create great character quirks. Grievous was still part organism and a partially botched effort to use cybernetics in providing life support for a dying organism - something finally made successful with Vader.
He seemed more awesome in the cartoons because those animators only had a few notes and scetches to go from when they made it and didn't know all of George Lucas' intentions with the character. Plus, he was facing Obi-Wan, not an average Jedi, in the movie. I'm not trying to dog the others, but Obi-Wan is supposed to be one of the greatest - even among the masters.
I don't bear the hatred for I and II some do. The complaints most people have about them are complaints reviewers had about the original Star Wars in 1977 - stiff dialogue, poorly directed actors, etc. Lucas addressed the problem he has directing actors amidst a special effects extravaganza this time around by hiring acting coaches to help out when he was unavailable. I definitely think it helped Hayden Christianson. We fans of the originals are also often blind to their flaws due to childhood devotion, despite the fact that they do have about as many as the prequels do.
I think I and II are also harmed by the fact that they are prequels of a known product. It's impossible to create them as if there was nothing else following, making it odd from a storytelling standpoint - having something with a known outcome hold any kind of suspense or interest. Plus, everyone, including Lucas, was waiting for the Episode III story and unfortunately had to bear it through the build-up, which could never please anyone entirely who cares more about seeing the eventual Obi-Wan/Vader showdown than seeing the Republic find little Anakin-boy. If Lucas could have started at Episode I with no preconceived notions, I think it would have been a little different. The best way to judge the prequels will be to watch them someday in order with someone who hasd never seen the originals.
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Post by Ritsu on May 24, 2005 7:30:11 GMT -5
In what sense? I don't think Hayden Christensen's acting in the Star Wars movies is anything near good. I liked how his facial expression kept changing on Episode III, his face grew harder and harder throughout the whole movie, related to his progession (or regression) to the Dark Side (sorry for my English, I'm not into making an effort today). But Christensen's a really good actor. I saw him on Life As a House, and specially on Shattered Glass, and it's like we have two completely forms of acting - the good and the... average. I don't get it. I personally like his acting a lot, and I thought the stiffness on Ep. II was due to lack of experience (I didn't know "Life As a House" was shot before Ep.II), but when I saw Ep. III I just got puzzled. He did a great work, I'm not saying he didn't. It's just that I saw him do much better. And if he managed to get me all teary eyed on Ep. III, if he worked his best, I would've cried a river.
The movie is tottaly awesome. I sound like a kid by saying this, but it is. As you know, I don't belong to the previous trilogy generation, but I kinda grew up with it - my parents introduced me to it when I was still very young. So, since a very young age, I became devoted to the old movies and shared the same exhaspeation die-hard fans felt when Ep. I came out. I agree with D, it wasn't that bad - after all, they didn't have much of a story to tell on the first movie (the same thing happened with Ep. IV, it was merely the introduction of the characters, nothing huge happened), and I think the main points were focused well. Then on Ep. II, true, it wasn't a masterpiece, but I liked it. Once again, it didn't have much story about it, the only thing it needed to focus on was the growing tension in the Republic and Anakin's anger and hate growing stronger and stronger, specially because of what happened to his mother (I loved that bit when he's telling Padmé what he did, like, killing all the creatures who had his mother imprisioned, and the Imperial March playing on the background, but very softly). But Episode III is exactly what it should be. Just... exactly.
A friend of mine told me he thought some things were a bit forced - like Yoda saying he had to go on exhile and some other stuff. I don't think so. He said he thought those things just were on the movie merely to make sense when connected to the previous trilogy. I don't agree. I mean, he could've picked the lame dialogs between Anakin and Padmé to criticize, not something so trivial as Yoda's lines being forced. x.x
I loved the fight sequences, specially the last one between Anakin and Obi-Wan. The effects were outstanding. All that lava. Wow. *has been a volcano fan for 8 years*
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Post by d on May 24, 2005 22:51:37 GMT -5
Alot of what is seen as wooden acting in the prequel trilogy is actually intentional. The Jedi are meant to be extremely formal in their manner and speach. Granted, this is sometimes not executed well - silmilar to Amidala's forced "queen" speech in Episode I. Hayden was in the same boat in II. His attempts failed while Ewan MacGregor's semi-impression of Alec Guiness's original Obi-Wan comtinued to work well. While it still sounds somewhat forced in III, I just thought Hayden improved his speech patterns quite a bit. I think the reality is that the manner of speech intended was just difficult for some. You're right though. He has fared better in other films. Still, the use of eyes, face, and other physical expressions are just as vital in acting as line delivery, and Hayden's use of those things in III really sold it for me.
I wondered if some of the connections to the original trilogy were a bit forced, but then I realized that people watching the movies in order for the first time would wonder where Yoda was in Episode IV if he hadn't mentioned exile in III, so it was a good idea.
...and it was so cool that they actually showed Alderaan's "blockade runner" ship from the beginning of IV!
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Post by Ritsu on May 25, 2005 6:28:44 GMT -5
Yeah, that was so cool! I even turned to my mom and said "Hang on... I think I've seen this corridor in Episode IV". And then it hit me. I loved those little connections between the prequel and the sequel, those were the ones that got me teary-eyed. One of the things that moved me the most were the babies. I don't know why, though, but I kept imagining what would happen to them and the whole emotional journey Luke had to go through some years later and it just hit me. Specially the bit in Tatooine, when Luke's in Beru's arms and both Beru and Owen turn to face the horizon - the exact same thing Luke would do years later, desperate to get out.
I'm just an emotional wit.
I wrote something about the movie - something ellaborate - I might translate it and post it here, though I'm not sure it's worth it. I always tend to explore the emotional links rather than the... ones that actually matter (although Episode III has loads of emotional stuff). |
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Post by d on May 25, 2005 7:58:17 GMT -5
I was also thinking about Luke's aunt and uncle at the end of the movie...how they eventually turn on the guy who brought them a baby in the first place just to keep Luke around.
Although I would have been satisfied without it...
SPOILERS AHEAD!!!
...I'm glad they explained the whole "force ghost" thing because Obi-Wan's lines in IV to Vader ("If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine") carry much more weight. Now, it's as though Obi-Wan praticed and planned for that moment for years.
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Post by Zicdeh on May 26, 2005 7:37:22 GMT -5
SPOILERS AHEAD!!! ...I'm glad they explained the whole "force ghost" thing because Obi-Wan's lines in IV to Vader ("If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine") carry much more weight. Now, it's as though Obi-Wan praticed and planned for that moment for years. Absolutely. Episode III tied up a whole lot of loose ends, even some of them were really really small loose ends that some people may not have noticed and that scene where anakin takes his first mechanical breath....cinematic gold. |
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Post by d on May 26, 2005 9:11:54 GMT -5
Funny note I just read online:
Because the not-even-six-foot Hayden wanted to play the mechanized Vader, the suit was creatively designed to make him taller. He actually wore lifts, saw through the mouthpiece and not the eye lenses, and yet still needed trick photography to help LOL
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Post by Ritsu on May 27, 2005 5:46:43 GMT -5
LOL and I thought he was so tall Seriously, I thought he was really tall. The wonders all those techniques do. I bet they do the same thing with Tom Cruise. Actually, it may've been kinda frustrating for him to go to awards and parties with Nicole Kidman by his side
I think the real Cinematic gold was his first "Yes, Master". I wonder how much James Earl Jones got paid to say three or four lines.
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