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Post by Rue on Feb 7, 2003 22:23:33 GMT -5
Peter- Gryffindor, Susan- Hufflepuff, Edmund- Slytherin, Lucy- Ravenclaw.
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Post by En on Feb 7, 2003 23:35:58 GMT -5
Really? *plops on Devil's Advocate hat* ;D
I thought it would be Lucy in Gryffindor, because she was the one who insisted the place really existed, and she was very close to Aslan and did a good many brave things during the battle. And Susan couldn't be a Hufflepuff, because remember that she was the one who stopped caring about Narnia. That's hardly loyal, is it?
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Post by Rue on Feb 8, 2003 3:43:50 GMT -5
So again we get into a series that I read the first two or three books of years ago and have just started refreshing my memory by reading the first one.
This is so confusing. Does anyone else see how closely all of the houses are related? Take Peter stabbing the wolf, right? Did he do it (a) because he was showing his brave side or (b) because he was loyal to his siblings and had to save them?
Okay, to take it slowly, one step at a time:
Edmund- He seems the easiest, just because of the way power or the thought of power showed how ambitious he is. Obviously, at first he didn't show loyalty, bravery, or knowledge. Power was what mattered. And... I wonder how much all of them changed at the end of the book. If any of them switched houses because they learned what they had to know.
Susan- Susan's really sensible. Right when they entered Narnia she wanted to turn back because she realized that they were cold, had no food, and didn't know much about their surroundings. But once Lucy mentioned having to help Mr. Tumnus, Susan agreed that that was the best thing to do. And in the end of the book, when all of them know that going past the lamp post will make some drastic change occur, she does feel like she should stay loyal to Narnia. She's the last one to agree to explore where it takes them.
Lucy- She might be Gryffindor...
Nialle, you do know that I'll have to reread the book in order to think of their placements the entire time instead of just thinking about it in the last 40 pages. My thoughts are too jumbled to make any sense. I'll be back later.
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Post by fico the fur on Feb 9, 2003 3:28:01 GMT -5
*wishes he could join in on cool discussions. instead, posts more ideas for groups of four*
--compound English words ending in body: everybody, nobody, anybody, somebody --directions: right, left, up, down --words ending in "ous": stupendous, tremendous, horrendous, hazardous --dimensions: width, height, depth, time
Those are all from my YouthGroupLeader-man. I thought the last one was super-duper-cool. ;D
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Post by Motley the Mercenary on Feb 9, 2003 10:43:54 GMT -5
you're right, the last one is super cool but... how are you going to relate those to houses? because which direction you measure width in is so arbitrary. lie down on your side and presto, you're measuring height.
*tries to figure it out for a while*
i guess dimensions would be easier than directions because dimensions actually have connotations. height implies greatness. width implies great ownership or control, or fat, or age if you're a river. depth implies thought. i dunno, i have to think about that.
i'm not sure edmund is an open-and-shut slytherin at all. just because... ack, i have to read it again too, but it's because of the way he came around. remember? his meeting aslan? *has to think about that too*
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fico the fur
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Post by fico the fur on Feb 10, 2003 16:50:18 GMT -5
You're right, it is arbitrary, but I think that might make it more interesting in a way? I dunno. I like your idea of using what's associated with the words to suit them with houses. Using that, I got this:
height: Gryffindor width: Hufflepuff depth: Ravenclaw time: Slytherin
thoguhts? I was thinking Gryffindor is often the house with "glory" or whatever. Huffelpuff tends to cover a lot of ground, like, they seem the most expansive of the houses. Ravenclaws have conceptual depth. And Slytherin would try to take on the task of understanding time.
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Post by Motley the Mercenary on Feb 13, 2003 8:51:00 GMT -5
total agreement on height and depth. but... wouldn't slytherin be width, because they would want to spread out their power, and hufflepuff time because loyalty and hard work take effect over long periods of time?
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Post by fico the fur on Feb 13, 2003 20:51:10 GMT -5
I see what you mean, but I like my idea too... *gets a new idea* Wanna write an essay each, comparing our thoughts and trying to bash each other's until we prove our points?
Okay, so I don't mean 'bash', but you want to write comparative, persuasive essays, each of us arguing our points, and then put them together somehow?[/size]
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Post by Robin_Sprouts on Feb 14, 2003 13:01:40 GMT -5
Ok - so I'm coming in on the Wizard of Oz portion of this discussion a little late but, Motley said we don't really know enough about Glinda to place her in a house. If you read Wicked, you'll find out, surprisingly enough that Glinda is a Slytherian. I'm not real sure that the "Wicked" Witch isn't a Hufflepuff, believe it or not. You really have to read Wicked!!
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Post by Isbister15 on Feb 14, 2003 22:43:50 GMT -5
Argh, I just realized I hadn't posted anything else about the Beatles! Well, to make a long story short, I'm placing John (extremely witty, highly intelligent, quick thinker) in Ravenclaw, Paul (very ambitious, slyly worked to achieve his personal goals even when it went against the group as a whole) in Slytherin, George (loyal though sometimes overlooked team player, patiently and diligently toiled to master his craft) in Hufflepuff, and Ringo (ah, the Neville of the Beatles ; triumphed over physical adversities to fulfill his role, protective of his bandmates, perhaps the heart of the group) in Gryffindor. I'm sorry to say I haven't had ample time to work on this. Recently, I did set out to write a paragraph outlining George's qualities that would warrant his placing, and I ended up writing a full page on his background just up until he joined the group. I didn't even get into the real Beatle time, yet I felt like I was writing a history of the group from memory. So, yeah, I'm a bit behind on things right about now. But I'll try to get crackin' soon.
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Post by En on Feb 19, 2003 15:23:59 GMT -5
*note to self*
More fours:
The Princess Bride: Fezzik, Inigo, Wesley, Buttercup Cities in the USA: NYC, Chicago, Denver, LA Regions of the USA: (obtain fours from people in every state and from other countries, and see how they are different ) Paradise Lost: God, Adam, Eve, the Serpent
Right, back on topic: Robin, we must find a fourth. (Robin and I talked about this one and we figure that the Witch of the East is a Gryffindor, and that the Witch of the West is either Huff or Raven, but we need a fourth).
Isbister: You rock my scarf. That's a pretty solid outline already, and I'm buying your Sorting. Out of curiosity... could we get you to write about your sorting process? Because I thought it was really funny that you had the Slytherin figured out right away, but then used details like George's plant thing to sort the rest of them. That is so cool.
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Post by Isbister15 on Feb 19, 2003 20:57:36 GMT -5
Another four: Stan, Kyle, Kenny, and Cartman. You know, the South Park kids! Beefcake!! En, are you and Robin looking for another witch to sort? Or just a Wizard of Oz character? Isbister: You rock my scarf. That was so cute. You don't know how much that made me laugh. ;D I'm glad no one is adamently opposed to my placing, or atleast no one had said anyting yet. To tell you the truth, I did have a couple of other possibilities in mind, but these just seemed like the strongest. I think I can write about the process I used to sort the boys. Should I write it along with the essay, or would you just like me to write up something to post here? (Either is fine with me. And, yes, the Slytherin was easy. But with the others, though they, too, have distinctive characteristics, their personalities and tendencies kind of mesh with more than one house, so I took all that into consideration. But Paul is the Slytherin. Definitely.
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Post by En on Feb 28, 2003 17:47:23 GMT -5
Why don't you just post something here about how you did it? Just getting it on a page might help you think out what you want to say in your essay, and you never know, you might say something here that really works for the essay. Plus, if you post here about it, you might help other people with their own sorting projects.
In case there is a person on the green earth who hasn't heard my latest four, I thought I'd drop a few thoughts here and see what people think.
I've been working on the four loves: familial, neighbourly, ideological, and romatic. The idea here is that each of us needs connection with the world to function as people, and in general it is a good idea to have a variety of connections, but some people are more focused on one kind of love or another because of who they are and what their culture has taught them.
Familial love is the love you share with a group of people who don't necessarily share anything with you except parts of your life. Your roommate, your actual family, your closest friends, anyone who has to do body-function things like eating or sleeping in the same place with you. Red love is about the compromises you have to make to live together, and about your sense of home and belonging.
In many ways, Harry shares red love with Hagrid and with Gryffindor House, because his place in his house and his friendship with Hagrid are secure and supportive, and because these relationships focus on the most basic common efforts -- eating and living together, working on the house comp together, banding together against perceived enemies.
Neighbourly love is about a broader kind of connection: the effort to be a contributing member of your society, the compromises of living in that society, and the acceptance and support that neighbours can offer. Neighbours water your plants when you're in hospital, and in return, you don't park a rusted-out Ford in your yard if your neighbours think it's unsightly. You elect one of your neighbours (or they elect you) to keep an eye on the laws you will have to follow, and you can trust your neighbours to hear you out when you have an idea that might improve all your lives.
Yellow love doesn't have to happen in your town or suburb, though. It can be between you and a group you've chosen to be in, like Harry and Hogwarts, or like Harry and the magical world, or even like the members of a Quidditch team. Wherever people who live separate lives are trying to work together to make life livable for everyone, there is yellow love.
Ideological love is the relationship that a group of people have who share a belief or faith. This is a love about exploring meaning, about looking for answers to the Big Questions and giving each other a hand in dealing with Big Stuff by sharing hope and inspiration.
Many Jews, for example, have blue love for each other, and so do Democrats, and so do feminists. Not all Jews agree on everything (there are "six million Jews in America, and six million Judaisms" according to one such), but most Jews share the idea that there are questions, and G'd has a lot of good answers, so it would be a good idea for us to try to know G'd so we can get a handle on what G'd's answers might be. And because so many Jews share this basic idea, even though we have different concepts for what G'd's answers are, we have a connection and will tend to support each other's ideas in a crunch. More importantly, our blue love allows us to grow in our faith by sharing ideas with each other.
Romantic love is an intimate connection, a soul-to-soul connection, in which each member of the connection is involved in a large part of each other's life and through which each explores the other and hirself. These connections don't have to be sexual relationships, though the mutual intimacy and the desire to be completely close to another can lead to that. Close friends can have this connection, or a student and mentor, or any two people who desire to know each other as deeply as possible.
A person can also have green love with an idea, like (for example) the relationship between a born-again Christian and hir faith: it is a deep experience of emotional, intellectual, and spiritual intimacy. This is dangerous, however, because the foundation of romantic love is the fact that it only grows closer, or helps the members to grow, when the flow of emotional and idea ties goes both ways. So, one could say that Voldemort has a romantic relationship with power, but because power (the idea, the thing) can't really speak to him, he starts to imagine what power wants and act accordingly, and this is what causes him to be a megalomaniacal sociopathic mass murderer.
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Post by Calantha on Mar 3, 2003 18:14:24 GMT -5
Okay, so I know this might not have a lot of relevance, but...I just thought of this... So, I was at the Hirshhorn (art museum, part of the Smithsonian) earlier, and I was coming up the escalators to the top floor, and right in front of me, in neon letters is Four Colors, Four Words. So, it's by this Kosuth fellow, made in 1966 and goes from Green to Purple to Red to Blue...and the first thing that popped into my head was "things that come in fours, maybe I should post it" and adjacent to it was another "4" painting. Beware-Danger American Dream #4 by Robert Indiana (1963) and I was just like...whoa...there are fours everywhere! Anyways...I was sorta "whoa-ed" by it.
And for the thing, I don't know if this is already up, but gas, liquid, solid, plasma...
I'll go look to see if it is up.
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Post by gabi on Mar 9, 2003 14:27:23 GMT -5
*adds to the big o' list*
The four hobbits in the Fellowship: Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin.
Frodo- Gryffindor, Sam- Hufflepuff, Merry- Slytherin, Pippin- Ravenclaw.
Types of rap: old school, gansta, mainstream, underground.
old school- Hufflepuff, underground- Ravenclaw... but I'm having trouble with gangsta and mainstream.
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