Calantha
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Post by Calantha on Dec 27, 2003 8:25:03 GMT -5
I only vaguely remember the boxcar children so I am afraid I can't really do anything with them. Right, so my friend gave me the set of A Series of Unfortunate Events, so I haven't read a lot of them yet (up to four I think?) so...this seems a little too easy...but Klaus in Hufflepuff, Sunny in Gryffiindor, Olaf in Slytherin, and Violet in Ravenclaw although I can also see Olaf in Gryffindor. A bit off topic, but is the actual writer of those Joe Romano?
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Post by En on Dec 27, 2003 8:53:38 GMT -5
Actually, his name is Daniel Handler, and in terms of personality he's a bit like a cross between Weird Al and Daniel Pinkwater. Definitely strange. Also plays accordion rather well.
Hm, I'd have put Klaus in Ravenclaw, since he's the big reader and also very intellectually curious about everything from law to science, but I can't decide whether Sunny or Violet would be the Gryff, especially since I've read through The Slippery Slope now... It seems like they're both very brave, and neither one has particularly Huffish traits, though I guess my gut feeling is that Sunny is less non-Huffly than Violet...? They're both very loyal, I guess, but Violet is more characterised by her inventiveness than her loyalty.
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Post by KoNeko on Dec 28, 2003 14:17:09 GMT -5
*grins* Heh, I've only read the first 7 books but I'd say that Olaf is quite the conventional Slytherin, but there's something definitely Huffly about Klaus- but it's more of a "vibe I picked up from TD Huffs" than the conventional loyalty thing, but yeah. Maybe it's because he always uses what he's learnt to help their situation? Or maybe it's simply the "I like to read" bit?
Then there's the whole "Violet must protect her younger siblings" thing, which is quite Huffly, but also quite Gryffish. So I'd tend to make Violet sort of a purplish RavoGryff person... hmmm, they don't fall into any clear categories, do they?
Sunny I'd put in Gryff just because she seems to fit in there better than the other houses, but just.
*coughs* On another note, I've heard they're making the LS books into a movie, and they expect it to be big- it's due for release in December 2004.
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Post by En on Dec 28, 2003 16:26:43 GMT -5
Mm. Here we are at the TD versus book crossroads again.
I was also thinking about what Cal said more, and I can definitely see arguments for Violet in Ravenclaw, but then I was also thinking, Sunny is incredibly erudite... check out her use of like 8 languages in her one-word utterances. That makes the things she says both intellectually informed and puzzle-like, plus she's often the one to see through to the heart of a problem... is she Ravennish?
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Calantha
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Post by Calantha on Jan 3, 2004 13:59:38 GMT -5
Well, they are all intelligent no doubt. I don't know, I guess Sunny is just so little as of where I am currently in the series but she seems so brave, especially for being so small. Or maybe that's just the charm of her being small.
Maybe the four just do not fit into all the houses. Or they do fit, but the best fit means they aren't all in separate houses. After all, they are relatives and have been through the same event so they are bound to have characteristics that are similar.
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Post by En on Jan 3, 2004 17:35:20 GMT -5
How far are you, Cal? I mean... because over New Year's, I was with two of my three closest mates from college, and I was thinking about how we shifted houses, relative to each other, over long periods of time.
You don't know any of them (though I've tried to haul them over here ), but basically, in school we were (by the books) Fritz=Gryff with a Slyth twist, Val=Huff with a Raven twist, Eric = Slytherin with a Huff twist, and me = Raven with a Gryff twist. Like, Fritz was the one out partying and living it up, but also the best at making hard decisions and leading the group (and we were hard to lead, as we were oldest siblings (Eric had a mentally handicapped older sister, so he counts for an oldest sibling because of the role he took in her life and with his parents). Val wasn't keen on the academic life (still isn't) and yet was very nerdy (in the best sense); she was there to get through the four years and have some fun at it. Eric was the best at seeing through people, having one-on-one friendships, and throwing the parties, also nerdy but probably the best out of us at studying. I was the Luna Lovegood, whimsical and living half in a book all the time, but also the instigator of several of our group efforts (e.g., the April revolution).
But now, Fritz is the one who's a professional writer and going back to school, with a very Slythy way of approaching this -- it's sheer ambition backed by smarts. Val works for an AIDS group and is now very Gryffy, a confident leader and reformer, with the Huff stability to back her up. Eric is the Huff now, from what I hear (he's been out of touch) -- working hard, teaching and having what appears to be the most regular life. Me, I'm still the Raven of the four, with my novel-writing ambitions, but I have the Slyth twist now, while I sort out what I have to do to get what I want.
So I'm thinking, sortings are always relative depending on what four you pick; but time is also a factor when you've got living people in contact with each other. Which makes sense, since relationships between people change. So your point that Sunny seems more Gryffy at her early age makes a ton of sense to me.
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Calantha
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Post by Calantha on Jan 3, 2004 20:44:52 GMT -5
I'm like...two pages into book four.
Well...wouldn't it make sense that as you get older your characteristics would change? I know a lot of people when they were kids (kids I have worked with...whoa...that makes me sound old...) and when they were little they were totally Gryffindor. Well, Gryffindor in the simplest form probably because they don't really have to live in the "grown-up world" and they are still learning a great deal about how things work. As they grew older, you could start to see them move into different characteristics. Not that every little kid is going to throw caution to the wind...just like not every teenage throws caution to the end...but that seems to be a general trend... So I'm a complete believer about people changing with time...I guess because situations cause us to change and we are all growing.
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Post by En on Jan 16, 2004 0:24:34 GMT -5
*nods agreement*
Another four, on a whim: The Hobbit and the three books of LotR. I'd put Return of the King is very much about leadership and Theoden and Aragorn's changes, and heroism in the face of the final threat; so I'd put that in Gryffindor. Fellowship of the Ring is set up in a very classical journey style, introducing the epic, setting up the archetypes and roles that will be used throughout the book, plus the Council is all talk and goes on forever, and a major subplot is Gandalf trying to get hold of the wisdom to decide what to do; and for all these reasons, the book seems very Ravennish to me. Two Towers is about the journeys each group takes, in one case reaching out to build the allies against Mordor (Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, and also Merry and Pippin in Fangorn) and in the other case trying to find a sense of loyalty and a reason to go on (Frodo and Sam), so that's quite Huffish.
Which makes The Hobbit the Slytherin book, which makes sense, because everything in that book comes to a head when five armies are battling for power over the spoils of Smaug's death, and Bilbo discovers that you can't solve all your problems by being steady and dependable -- you have to be independent and decisive sometimes.
Here's another... someone want to have a go at sorting some characters from Pullman's Dark Materials trilogy? Plenty of possible fours to choose from....
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Calantha
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Post by Calantha on Mar 21, 2004 9:37:55 GMT -5
Regions of the USA: (obtain fours from people in every state and from other countries, and see how they are different )
Ah, see what a person can find when they come back through a thread? (Or what a person can miss the first time around ) There are more than four regions, I think, in Virginia, I may be wrong...but I'll try to do it justice. 1.) Northern Virginia- Slytherin without a doubt...it's the area where all the business is, the metropolitan area, everything is fast, help yourself or get screwed sort of attitude, money, poverty, ambtition. It's your typical suburbia meets city area. 2.) Shenandoah Valley: I see this area as more Hufflepuff. Maybe because this is where I've spent the majority of my years (17...oh so much ) but I think most people living here by choice have a distinct love for the land and farming is a lot of the industry. The people are pretty hard working or at least the ones I have encountered and there is totally a feeling of joint community although the more northern you go the more you run into towns with Slytherin tendancies because of the overflow from Northern Virginia. 3.) Central/Chesapeake Area: I'd give this area to Ravenclaw. It has Richmond in it and although I would think this to be a very Gryffindor city, I feel like the mix between Richmond and the older towns like Norfolk and Williamsburg sorta give a Ravenclaw vibe because of the general history that goes into the area. Also, it was the left over house and this would be the more raveny out of the other regions. 4.) Southern Virginia (Tri-Cities area): Totally Gryffindor. At first I wanted to say Hufflepuff but that isn't as close a fit as it is with Gryffindor. It's a whole different world than the rest of Virginia and bravery just comes with the territory down there. Not that the people down there aren't hardworking, loyal, ambitious, witty, anything like that, but just the general atmosphere reeks of Gryffindor...the history is gryffindory, the land is gryffindory...the mountains upon mountains, raw wilderness, togh terrain...need I go on? The US regions though...Northeast= Slytherin, Southeast= Gryffindor...Midwest= Hufflepuff...West=Ravenclaw? Are those even the regions of the US? Have we mentioned the four core school subjects? Math, Reading, Science, History
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Post by nancy on Jun 9, 2004 20:52:19 GMT -5
Oh, I like that... but it might be a little tougher... let's see... Reading's Ravenclawish... It's about learning more, sometimes just for the sake of learning... Science's Gryffindorish... Like you sometimes really need courage to see what happens when you mix A and B... especially if you're not supposed to do it. History's Hufflepuffish, because lots of people in history worked hard, and because many teacher work hard for their students to like it... AAAAAND Math's slytherinish... because it helps achieve ends. At least that's what every math teacher always says.
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Post by Calavera Diablos on Sept 29, 2004 0:30:23 GMT -5
Meh, i feel silly because I couldn't come up with anything quite as clever as the Indian social statuses thing. Let's travel to Midde Earth and see where Men, Elves, Dwarves and Hobbits would be sorted. Gryffindor- Dwarves. They seem to live life to the fullest. They communicate loudly in voice and body language. As seen by Gimli, they can be stubborn, but tenacious. They make very loyal friends and appear to be very welcoming hosts. I think the defining trait of the Dwarves in respect to gryffindor is that they are somewhat looked down upon for being greedy and useless in combat due thier er... height problems. This doesn't seem to bother them though, they'll run into the thick of battle against Dragons and Oliphants, creatures that are many times their size without a blink of an eye. being a short person myself, I stand by the claim that what we don't have in height, we make up for in inner strength. Ravenclaw- The Elves, naturally. They've been around for the longest, constantly learning and creating. They seem to be the types who enjoy perfecting their crafts. They strike me as being very intelligent (and rather proud of that, I'm sure most Ravens here have been accused of being egotistical even though they didn't mean to come across as such) but also enjoy the spiritual and theoretical aspects of the world. Hufflepuff- The Hobbits! One with the land, they know the value of calloused hands and muddy feet. They're content with what they feel is the good life, which they know requires effort and careful planning to attain. I wouldn't call them simple, I feel that they understand that you don't need much to feel you've had a fufilled life. Like the Hufflepuff house, they seem to be written off and they seem like they don't stand out much, but they are capable of doing extraordinary feats and usually are the stablizing force of any group. Slytherin- Men. Men, like the Slytherins, are automatically labeled as evil, manipulative and selfish to a fault. Some are, some aren't. What they share is the fact that men do have high aspirations and when they set their mind to it, they will go to almost any means to achieve their goal. This isn't a bad thing, seeing as Men are highly industrious, easily adaptable and strong willed race. Like everyone though, they are suseptible to temptation. I don't really blame them, they're the most short lived race of Middle Earth. Who wouldn't want to take a little shortcut?
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