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Post by hermoine on Jul 19, 2004 6:08:07 GMT -5
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Post by Ritsu on Jul 19, 2004 15:15:13 GMT -5
I think this one's more ridiculous than the one saying the HBP is Dudley (in a ridiculous scale). So, how could someone from the future be in Book 6? Wouldn't it imply a good amount of imagination that JKR proved to be lacking of on Book 5? It'd be something like Trunks. Bulma and Vegeta's son from the future appearing in the present to save the day and making it clear to them they were getting married in some years time. That would be too stupid and too spoiler-ish.
Rubes, at least it's something related to DBZ.
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Post by hermoine on Jul 21, 2004 10:18:23 GMT -5
Yeah that's what I thought too Rita. The first thing which came to my mind was that girl from Sailor Moon, dunno what her name is but anyways she comes from the future.
Rubes, were you the one to write the article of the guy from the future?
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Post by Rubes on Jul 21, 2004 22:36:07 GMT -5
Puullease I wouldn't be so silly as to make an arse of myself in front of anybody.... .... *Crickets shirp* .... *Cough*
Maybe it was someone who has also seen the Terminator movies. Remember the big scary machines that go back in time to knock off the mum, and then the kid in the second movie?
However!
It's still plausible It's only drawing on ideas that have already been introduced by JKR. Of course, it means that something bad must happen to Ron or Hermione to make this kid actually travel back in time. How can he be born if his parents die before they've hit "that time in their life" It seems more likely than either of the other two in my opinion, but still not very likely at all.
I still think it's a half human-half something else. What is Grawp? I don't have OotP on me to check.
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Post by Sphi on Jul 21, 2004 23:03:57 GMT -5
That whole Terminator thing confuses me. My sister started trying to explain that to me after watching PoA.
Grawp is all giant, Rubes, so it can't be him.
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Post by KoNeko on Jul 23, 2004 23:10:55 GMT -5
I've been reading along and personally, I think HBP is the silliest name for a HP book that JKR has come up with so far. And if she starts bringing in any more of that time travel business or unborn children from the future or whatever Rubes is going on about... grrr....
But yeah, why can't it be Dudley? We haven't fully established that Petunia is NOT a witch. So it (potentially) could be him, although even I have my doubts about it.
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Post by hermoine on Jul 27, 2004 9:38:12 GMT -5
Nah not Dudley! But he does play a part. Read this.
This is a list of things that will happen in Book 6. They were collected from interviews JK gave:
1) Harry spends his shortest break at the Dursleys yet.
2) We'll learn more about the circumstances of Voldemort's birth.
3) Nymphadora Tonks, the character, will be back and will possibly play an important role.
4) Moaning Myrtle will make a reappearance in the story.
5) Narcissa Malfoy (wife to Lucius Malfoy) will play a bigger role now that her husband is in Azkaban.
6) We will find out what memory Dudley re-lived when the dementor attacked him in the beginning of OotP.
7) Wormtail will reappear in book six.
8) Harry will see more romance in his life.
9) There will be a new minister for magic.
10) There is a graveyard in Hogwarts and it becomes crucial in book six.
So you see? Dudley will play a part at least. Tonks will play an important role? Although I still think it's not true Sphi were you the one to hint Tonks as the HBP?
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Post by Robin_Sprouts on Jul 27, 2004 10:39:09 GMT -5
So, after a conversation with En - we would like to propose Salazar Slytherian as the half-blood prince. JK has said that there is no trace of the story line of HBP left in Chamber of Secrets but that the plot of HBP is related to a discovery made by Harry in CoS. Harry discovers the history of Slytherian, Voldemort/Riddle's relationship with Slytherian (heir thereof) in CoS. This would be an interesting story line. Harry feels even more connected to Voldemort and Slytherian than he did when he found out he was a parseltounge when he discovers that Slytherian was a half-blood. There have been so many Nazi/Hitler references in the books thus far, it would only make sense to write Slytherian as a half-blood, just as Hilter was half Jewish. An interesting prospect? Full of crap? What do you think?
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Post by hermoine on Jul 27, 2004 10:48:02 GMT -5
No, it is an interesting concept actually. I heard it before and the people discussing it discarded it for the pure reason that Slytherin wanted his house to be of Pure Bloods alone. That is why others went off proposing Godric Gryffindor because he didn't agree with Slytherin. Your idea of associating Slytherin with Hitler though, would make this idea though, sound quite appealing to me at least.
There is though point number 2 in the list I posted.
"We'll learn more about the circumstances of Voldemort's birth." That means we'll be going back to Riddle, which, come to think of it, could make the theory if the HBP be Slytherin plausible.
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Post by hermoine on Jul 30, 2004 9:43:04 GMT -5
Robin, you and En did hit a mark with the Hitler associating theory. That's the way JK interprets it herself.
There's been a new update and some new things to talk on.
So, 1) Arthur Weasley, won't be the new Minister for Magic. 2) Tom Riddle is the same as Voldermort, soo...the HBP is not him. 3) COS and HBP are related by something that Harry found out in COS that forshadows something that he finds out in HBP.
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Post by Sphi on Jul 31, 2004 22:31:47 GMT -5
Bah! Rowling needs to stop giving away the big spoilers, like about the Minister. Don't give us direct clues; be indirect and mysterious and subtle! Like with the Mark Evans deal...not good. Even she knew that some crazy fans wouldn't like that answer.
But #3 definitely works for the Salazar theory, since the biggest lesson in CoS is about Slytherin's past. So that would go along with one of the most popular theories, that the HBP would deal with the founders. I don't know, it's an interesting theory, but how much more can there be to it? I can't think of any possible twists (and God willing, there need to be some great ones with these last two books)...but I'm certain Rowling can.
What's with the Hogwarts graveyard, though? Who might be buried there. Cedric's body was returned to his parents, if I remember correctly, and I would assume Myrtle's was, too.Tonks will play an important role? Although I still think it's not true Sphi were you the one to hint Tonks as the HBP? Heh, yeah, I read it on that website of yours. I just thought it was a funny thought, but it's pretty certain that Tonks won't be the HBP. I think it would confuse many, many kids.
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Post by hermoine on Aug 3, 2004 9:25:39 GMT -5
Well then if Tonks isn't the HBP, I'm really think she might be the next DADA teacher.
Hey did you guys notice that Moaning Myrtle appears every two books? Weird.
I wonder what memory Dudley relieved.
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Post by hermoine on Aug 16, 2004 8:18:49 GMT -5
Well, JK said some very interesting stuff in the Edinburgh reading. Other than the wonderful news in her website of course. Anyways:
>Aberforth Dumbledore is the barman in the Hog's Head >Dumbledore's patronus is a phoenix >Grawp will be more controllable in the sixth book >We will see a bit more of Rita Skeeter >There will be a new character called Mc Claggan >Harry does NOT have a godmother
>Petunia is a Muggle > Why didn't Dumbledore try to kill Voldemort in that scene at the end of book five? Ans. Dumbledore gave a kind of reason to Voldemort but it's not the real answer, and that Dumbledore knows something more. JK said if we are wondering about the overall plot, we should be concentrating on those two questions. > JKR did not say Harry would survive through book seven, but TO book seven, which means he will be alive at the beginning of the book. > We'll see more of Blaise Zabini >The Dursleys will be a bit more involved in Book 7
The following is some general stuff:
>Snape can see Thestrals. He's seen some nasty stuff with the Death Eaters, but most of the adults in the Wizarding World can probably see Thestrals. >There is no trace of the Half Blood Prince storyline in CoS anymore. >Portraits are not as 'fully realised' as ghosts. They're like faint imprints, an aura. They're likely to repeat catchphrases like Sirius's mother. >Harry's christening was a fairly private affair because by this point they knew they would have to go into hiding.
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Post by [ Wiz ] on Aug 16, 2004 9:06:12 GMT -5
Personally I agree with Ko, this is the most ridiculous title so far. I wasn't expecting something sort of that 'offensive' if you see my meaning.
These are my views of the above things that Hermione said: 6) I think this proves that Dudley will have a more prominent role in book 6.
7) " You have created a bond between yourself and Wormtail, Harry by not letting him get killed" said Dumbledore, at the end of PoA. I think it's more about this we'll hear in book 6.
8)Oh no! Who is it this time?
9)I don't think the new minister is Dumbledore, it's more likely to be someone like Kingsley Shacklebolt.
10) Spooky!!!
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Post by hermoine on Aug 16, 2004 9:29:45 GMT -5
JK said Dursley isn't more than he looks to the eye. So, there won't be that big a part with him and the relevation of what he saw when the Dementor was near.
Well, JK already said it out flat. The new Minister is NOT Arthur. Maybe Percy might stand some kind of a chance.
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